Section 16 Attention

The host style of the "Dialogue" column is relatively rigorous and relaxed. It is very skillful in the way of inquiry, but the topic of choice is rich and varied.

"Just just now, Director Zhao talked about the issue of fertilizer import rights, I noticed that you mentioned that the adjustment of the national fertilizer raw material import rights mechanism is due to the emergence of the private economy in the fertilizer industry, which has changed the current domestic fertilizer industry structure. In fact, it is not just in the fertilizer industry. Through more than 20 years of reform and opening up, my country's private economy has never had a big deal, from weak to stronger. Now, according to statistics from relevant data, the proportion of the private economy in the national economy has exceeded more than half, which is the continuous strengthening of the private economy in the domestic economic system.

The old pattern has been constantly broken, but we have also noticed that while our government administrative organs have made some changes in response to changes in the pattern, many areas remain relatively static, such as energy, communications, public infrastructure, etc., have adopted administrative ban measures. In some basic industries, the private economy still suffers from policy discrimination. On this point, we would like to hear Director Zhao, as one of the heads of the National Development and Reform Commission, what do you think and plan on these issues?”

The host's question was quite polite. Although it pointed out some areas vaguely, it did not directly point out specific industries and events, which made Zhao Guodong much broader in the topics he answered.

"The development of the private economy has indeed shown a booming momentum over the past 20 years of reform and opening up. In the short film just now, some data were mentioned with the host. I basically agree with this view, that is, the position of the private economy in the national economy is increasing. The host just now also said that in some fields, national administrative agencies seem to lack some changes, and listed some industries. I would like to talk about my own views on this issue."

Zhao Guodong did not avoid this question. He knew that this question could not be avoided. He even had to thank the host for providing him with such a relatively large scope of play. After a while, there will definitely be many people below the audience who will attack him with more sharp, realistic and specific issues on this issue. He is mentally prepared, but being able to explain his views in this aspect in advance will help to set an ambush for the audience under the TV.

"Everyone may have noticed the differences between the several areas mentioned by the host and other areas. They are all basic industries that are related to national economy and people's livelihood and national economic security. At the same time, they are also basic industries with huge input and output. Forming the current pattern in these areas is not only a choice for my country's development history, but also influenced by the laws of market economy. State-owned capital occupies a dominant position in these areas, while private and foreign capital occupy a subordinate position."

"In fact, we don't think that the current pattern is static. The socialist economic system with Chinese characteristics implemented by our country is a socialist market economic system. This means that we must still adhere to the laws of the market economy in the economic field. The requirements of the laws of the market economy are market competition, the strong survive, and the weak are eliminated." Zhao Guodong said happily, "What we need to do as an administrative functional department is to create a relatively equal and fair market atmosphere, so that the state-owned economy and the private economy can compete fairly in various fields and promote development through competition."

The host keenly captured the keywords in Zhao Guodong's discourse, "Director Zhao, I noticed that when you mentioned creating an equal and fair market atmosphere, you added a restriction to, well, it is relative, how can we understand the meaning of this word?"

"Well, I added this word specifically, because when I talked about this point, I thought that I could remove the word "relative", which may sound more righteous and righteous, but I think it is still necessary to add that everyone here is our economic experts. The relative I want to say has its own special meaning. We must abide by the laws of the market economy, but in specific areas and specific events, as a national administrative department, as a national administrative department, still needs to exercise functions such as maintaining national economic security. To give a simple example, if Boeing in the United States is in poor operating conditions, our Chinese companies are interested in bidding, and Boeing shareholders agree to sell it, then do you think the US government will approve this transaction? It also complies with the rules of the market economy, but it still cannot be achieved in specific areas and specific events. This is the same for any country in any system."

"Of course, we cannot look at everything from this relative and specific perspective. After all, this relative and specific scope is a very small scope. In most areas, I personally think that we must still unswervingly follow the laws of the market economy." Zhao Guodong added: "At this point, any system that does not conform to the laws of the market economy and restricts economic development must be corrected through innovation and change."

"Director Zhao, we noticed that the National Development and Reform Commission has also begun a series of new actions since last year. First, the change in the import rights of fertilizers, and then a while ago, the steel industry integration issue that attracted many people's attention. According to our understanding, the National Development and Reform Commission has revised the steel industry integration plan several times. Although the final result has not been completely finalized, we have seen some changes that were unexpected to us. First, the two major steel sectors in Hebei and the north and north of Hebei signed restructuring agreements with Beijing Steel and Baosteel, which subverted the initial views of many people. What surprised us even more was that Jugang became the leader of the restructuring and integration of the New Qilu Steel Group. Before this, many people have always been skeptical and pessimistic about private steel companies becoming the leader of the steel industry, but we have seen this encouraging change. We would like to ask you to talk about your thoughts and feelings as one of the leaders of the steel industry integration."

Su Juehua was right. He was not the only one who watched and followed this episode of "Dialogue" column this night. In fact, when the content and guest invitations of this episode of "Dialogue" column came out, it attracted the attention of many people in the economic circle, especially many people in the private economy were extremely interested in this. When they were invited to participate as audience members, many people took the initiative to contact and ask to participate as audience members.

Compared with the modest host, the audience's questions are much sharper and sharper. Some directly asked about the institutional reasons such as Uni-Petrochemical and Tianhua Group's difficulties, some directly asked about the timetable for breaking monopoly in the power field, and some questioned the communication departmental administrative power as the source of corporate profits.

At the end of the day, the host also mentioned that in a speech by the leaders of the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission in an interview, a good competitive situation in the field of energy and communications has been formed, and there is no monopoly. He asked Zhao Guodong how to view this proposal.

This issue is unprecedentedly sharp, including on and off the stage and in front of the TV, many people are very concerned about the host's issue. Even Su Juehua wants to hear Zhao Guodong's views on this issue.

"I think monopoly is both a phenomenon and a trend. Monopoly is not monopoly because several companies have formed the so-called competitive situation. When I personally understand and comment on monopoly, if you form a monopoly through market competition, then our functional departments have the responsibility and obligation to achieve healthy competition by cultivating more competitors. Only in this way can our consumers benefit; if you achieve monopoly through administrative power and systems rather than corporate market competitiveness to gain high profits, then I personally think it is necessary to correct and modify the system, reclaim these powers, create a fair competition environment to break this pattern, so that other peers can participate in competition fairly, and benefit more ordinary consumers."

As soon as these words were spoken, they immediately aroused warm applause from the audience.

Just when Su Juehua applauded Zhao Guodong's words that were neither soft nor hard, and hidden in his striking style, many people were also paying attention to Zhao Guodong's statement.

The old man looked at the TV screen with a slight jaw on his head.

Zhao Guodong performed very well, especially in the last sentence, he neither avoided the questions raised by the other party, nor directly refuted the views stated by the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission listed by the other party. Instead, he analyzed the monopoly using a philosophical dialectical principle, and then put forward his own views, with a clear attitude, firm viewpoint, and quite standard.

During the period when he was working in the Development and Reform Commission, the other party grew up very quickly. Not only did he quickly adapt to the work within the commission and took on the main responsibilities, but he also carried out his work creatively and solved several very difficult problems. For example, the steel industry integration plan has been proposed since 2004, but it has never been able to have a plan that can ensure the implementation of the national industrial policy spirit and allow local governments to accept it. Zhao Guodong did a relatively successful job in this work. Although the province is definitely not very satisfied, this is already a very rare result.

He also noticed that the other party raised the issue of prioritizing the interests of ordinary people on several issues, and listed this as the primary basis for policy changes. This is a less eye-catching change, but it closely follows the theme of a harmonious society proposed by the central government at the Sixth Plenary Session of the 19th CPC Central Committee. The interests of the general public are above everything else. Many people have not yet truly understood this concept, or have not truly implemented this concept in their daily work. However, Zhao Guodong was able to capture this point very keenly and flexibly apply it to his own work. Whether this is a show or not, it is enough to prove the other party's maturity in this regard.
Chapter completed!