Chapter 1506 The debate between pros and cons

"With twenty years of accumulation, when serving as a servant, you will be given daily wages and land to help you, just like Mingrun."

"When the service is exempted, in areas where the service is light, the people will not feel burdened by the exemption money collected; in areas where the service is heavy, the state can also allocate funds to subsidize it."

Zhang Dun suddenly said: "The accumulation of twenty years is actually not nothing."

Han Zhen couldn't help but change his expression: "Zhang Dun, don't talk nonsense!"

Zhang Dun bowed to the curtain: "Empress Dowager, Your Majesty, don't forget, we have Dongshengzhou."

Sima Guang immediately said: "Gold and silver are not food fields."

"But gold and silver can develop fields, grow food, and promote circulation!"

Oops, he lost his composure again. Zhang Dun quickly bowed and said, "What Bi Zhongyou proposed is to plan a grand plan for the world. He knows the number of incomings and outgoings, and uses the money and millet accumulated in various ways to return it to the local officials."

"However, I believe that this accumulation is not for twenty years of national use, but for twenty years... Situ once discussed with me that this is called special funds for national development."

"According to what he said, it is not just about making plans for the world and knowing the numbers of incomings and outgoings, but also creating a budget for the country's annual expenditures on armaments, transportation, cities, water conservancy, farmland, industry and commerce, and based on the past years.

Statistics, find out the development trend, estimate the needs in the next few years, and the results that can be achieved after spending.”

"I think it's a bit fanciful, but if we limit this development fund only to national services, is it feasible?"

"National services are normal in normal times, but as time goes by, troubles arise."

"Nearly a hundred years have passed since the founding of the People's Republic of China, and there is no detailed investigation of what this constant should be now."

"Services generally include civil engineering, building bridges and roads, regulating rivers and canals, transporting Cao Valley, etc. Nowadays, there are specialized personnel to handle many things."

"In recent years, with the large-scale machinery industry, the number of manpower required for farm work, field management, transportation, etc. has been reduced, but the number of state and county servants has not changed;"

"As for the archers, elders, men, talismans, followers, hand strength, and history, many of them can be left to Zhechong Mansion."

"There is a precedent for this. Lu Huiqing once appointed a military academy to take charge of military affairs in Xuzhou, and Xuzhou still enjoys it."

"The non-service law later changed its character. It was too demanding and there was no way to raise money through service, which led to disadvantages."

"Wang Tingguang was promoted to prison in the two Zhejiang provinces, and Zhang Liang of Changping was promoted to lead the people to help the people. The money was raised to 700,000 yuan, and he was appointed as a coroner."

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"The people lose money, and one household has as much as three hundred thousand."

"There is one benefit to being exempted from military service, but there are five difficulties in doing so."

"Zhang Dun, please tell me the benefits first."

"Some people have a family with one hundred hectares of land, and some have only three hectares of land. Their households are all ranked first."

"If one hundred hectares is compared with three hectares, it is already thirty times, and the months and days of service are the same;"

"In this case, all official households, except the elders, should have no service."

"In this case, if the envoys all pay for hire, then the loss of one hundred hectares will be thirty times that of three hectares, and there will never be a lawsuit for a decisive shooting. This is a benefit."

"However, it is difficult to put it into practice. In my opinion, when I first put it into practice, there are actually five."

"The people just farm, and they are blamed for losing money. The money does not come from the fields."

"But now that treasure money can be used, people are no longer short of money, and losing money is no longer difficult. This difficulty is actually not difficult anymore."

"The army in the border states only recruits non-natives, so spies are difficult to guard against."

"However, Xixia has been brought to an end, and the people from all over the world have conquered it. Except for the Liao border area in Hebei, where there is a slight concern, in other places, this difficulty is no longer difficult."

"Field taxes vary from place to place, and the amount is different."

"Then it's not difficult to collect a fixed proportion according to different land taxes."

"If the elders hire people, it will be difficult to stop thieves. Four things."

"This item is already the responsibility of Zhechong Division and can be completely exempted."

"If you hire people in front of the Yamen, you will lose the official property, five things."

"Then cancel the Yaqian and use bidding methods to attract pedestrians to carry out services, such as steamships and trains for water transportation and railway transportation. The efficiency is improved many times compared to the previous Yaqian. It will not be done if a dedicated person is responsible for it.

It’s easy to fall into trouble.”

"Based on the five evils discussed by Sima Gong, in the past, people had to go to the household to serve and have people to accompany them, but after they reached the age of 10, they had to rest. Now, now they have to pay money every year, and the amount of money is more than the people in the past. This is the only harm.

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"But we also need to see one more thing. In the past, servants had to prepare equipment and materials individually. After being exempted from service, they only need to send money to the officials, and the materials and equipment can be purchased by the officials."

"Regardless of the quality or price of materials and equipment, buying in bulk or collecting piecemeal, everyone should know which method is more economical."

"For the servants, it's not that they don't have to take convenience or rest. At least they avoid the effort and trouble of purchasing supplies."

"Not only is it beneficial to the people, but it also reduces labor and costs, which is beneficial to the country."

"In the old days, the household income was not replenished, but now we have to pay for it, which will cause two harms."

"This article is an old drawback of the service exemption law. Then we can exempt the lower households from the service payment, or set up different service payment ratios for households at all levels. Wouldn't that solve it?"

"In the old days, all the people we sent were good native people; now we recruit people from all over the world. If they are officials, they will bend the rules and receive stolen goods. If they are in charge of official affairs, they will be invaded and misappropriated. Once something happens, the family will be exterminated, which will cause three harms."

"But now, unlike when the exemption law was first introduced, the country has many more workshops and guilds that can apply."

"They have technology, assets, and machinery. They are also good people, not idle people."

"They are good at fortifications and can take over projects. Their efficiency and quality are far higher than ordinary people summoned at short notice."

"The peasants have nothing more than grain, silk and strength. Today I don't use your strength. I will lose my money. I am self-employed. If there is a bad year, I will inevitably sell my farmland, cattle tools, and mulberry trees to get money to pay for the official. This will cause four harms."

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"This clause no longer exists, because the farmers of the Song Dynasty now have more than just grain, silk and strength."

"Is there any village today that doesn't have merchants and hawkers pushing carts exchanging precious coins for eggs and grains?"

"Promoting Chang Ping to do more work, collecting more money for servitude, accumulating more money, and hoping to make more use of it will cause five harms."

"This one is simpler, just live within your means, leave a little margin, and no longer regard the accumulation of margin as a bureaucratic achievement."

"Therefore, in the Song Dynasty today, the situation is completely different compared to the time when Prime Minister Anshi was in power."

"It was not feasible before. That was due to judicial deviations and different national conditions. There was no big problem with the non-servile law itself."

"Now is the opportunity for the exemption law to reap benefits. A slight change would be of great use."

"How can we continue to use jobs instead of hires and go back to the old way of serving the disabled people under the law?"

There was no sound in the hall again, everyone was thinking.

Sima Guang was actually under a lot of pressure.

What Zhang Dun said before is not actually a personal attack, because those things did happen.

When Su You persuaded him, he said that back then he strongly advised Han Qi to be brave and make sure Han Qi listened to his opinions. But now, he is like another Han Qi who cannot listen to his opinions.

Fan Chunren tried to persuade him to no avail and was a little angry, but he did say those words.

Su Shi was even more exaggerated. After persuading him to no avail, he called him a "Sima Niu" and a "turtle kicking".

Lu Gongzhu once said to himself: "The old ministers of Xifeng are many clever and clever people. If they use the righteousness between father and son, they will cause disaster."

At that time, he said sternly: "If Heaven were to banish Song Dynasty, nothing like this would happen!"

However, will such a thing really not happen?

Seeing that the ministers were all absorbed in thought by Zhang Dun's words, Gao Taotao coughed slightly and then said: "Now, the number of soldiers in various places has not yet been determined. It is too early to say anything."

"Su You is right. None of us can say anything about this matter. We can only judge it based on the current situation of national service."

"In that case, let's wait a little longer."

"But I have something to say here. If the country needs it, the royal family will keep half of the gold and silver from Dongsheng Prefecture this year with the court to help implement the new service law. It can also be regarded as a gift to the rulers. support."

Several ministers were so moved that they all bowed: "The Empress Dowager is wise, Your Majesty is wise."

Gao Taotao said: "The official family has a heavy academic workload, and it is not possible for him to handle the statistical data collection and inquiry alone. You can select three or four close ministers to help the official family handle this task."

Sima Guang said: "In fact, the candidates are ready. I recommend Bi Zhongyou, Su Yi, and Chen Wu."

"Bi Zhongyou was dispatching grain and fodder in Shaanxi to deal with Western affairs. Fan Chunren praised him highly and said, 'If you are not the emperor, I will fail in my affairs.'"

"Su Yi, Chen Wu and others were originally students of His Majesty. They are similar in age and have a family background in mathematics."

"Even if they can't do it, the elders in the family will not just sit back and watch. Su Yi proposed to repair the palace, didn't Situ help with the design and planning? He even played tricks on the old minister!"
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