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Volume 7 Still Waters and Deep Currents Section 13 Exploring and Discussing

Time flies very quickly, and almost a month has passed in a flash. For Sha Zhengyang, the passing of time means that work and life are fulfilling.

After receiving the task, he and a group of people quickly divided the labor.

The two people are responsible for surveying and collecting the basic situation of large enterprises under the jurisdiction of the entire large enterprise working committee. This was originally based on basic information, but the goals must be determined based on the three major industries, key areas and core directions determined by Sha Zhengyang and Cai Zheng. Some of them that are not inferior to these three in the future may be relaxed and enter all-round competition. However, those that have not been included yet, or even are blank. Then we must find ways to promote the large state-owned enterprises related to them to enter through various methods.

Survey and screening are the most basic tasks, but at the same time, it is necessary to determine the areas where large state-owned enterprises should occupy and enter and occupy a dominant position. Sha Zhengyang himself is responsible for bringing two people to this work.

This requires connection with the National Development and Planning Commission, the National Economic and Trade Commission, the National Science and Technology Commission and the National Defense Science and Technology Commission, and the National Science and Technology Commission, and the National Defense Science and Technology Commission, and to be in line with the country's future development strategy.

"The State Council Development Research Center has contacted it. They are still a little unfamiliar with our unit, and they also think some of the ideas and opinions we put forward are very innovative, but they seem to think that we are a bit overbearing and think that this should be determined at a higher level and that our family should not be pointed out."

Cai Zheng couldn't help but start complaining when he stepped into the office: "These people don't do it themselves, and they think that they have done something wrong. It's too boring to say some sour words."

"That's right. If you have such an attitude, what else can you expect?" Sha Zhengyang took the initiative to hand the teacup to the other party, "It's better than the National Planning Commission? People's attitude seems very enthusiastic, but in fact they don't want to pay attention to us at all. In their opinion, many of us come from the Organization Department of the CPC Central Committee and the Human Resources Department. Since it is the Working Committee, it must be the one who manages people and cadres. When is it our turn to worry about the development of specific industries? Isn't this going to steal their jobs? I haven't given a certain letter yet. Later, Director Wei called their leaders to contact them and said that he would first study the specific department to connect with them. He would reply next week. You said that this efficiency and attitude are like this. I'm afraid we won't even make a name when we list."

"Hey, this is probably the characteristic of our national conditions, right?" Cai Zheng sighed, "There is no clear idea of ​​who should do many tasks. It seems that everyone can manage them, and everyone should manage them. However, when it is truly implemented to which department and unit, there is no clear division of rights and responsibilities. Continuously using this connection, docking and coordination method to solve it can be said that it is just a temporary strategy. Whether the effect is good or the final result is really hard to sum up."

"It's normal. Jiulong governs the water, but the result is that no one can manage it well and cannot cure it. Of course, this has a lot to do with the ever-changing changes and development of the times. In the past twenty years, can you think of such huge changes? The huge changes continue to bring new problems. You can only solve the new problems through continuous reforms. But we hope to be more forward-looking when studying and solving these problems, and don't change them every day, so that you can't be at a loss."

"Well, Jiulong controls the water? This word is a good metaphor." Cai Zheng thought, "Lao Huang and his team are making pretty good progress, and the basic information has been established. Now we need to define specific fields, such as some important industries. I think everyone has no meaning, such as energy, finance, military industry, etc., there is nothing to say, but like some more broad ones, it is more controversial."

"Well, I know this is definitely worth discussing, and the way of dealing with it is probably full of controversy." Sha Zhengyang had expected this a long time ago, "Talk about it specifically."

"For example, high-end equipment manufacturing, cutting-edge materials, chips, and information industry are more difficult. First, the scope is large, and second, foreign capital and private enterprises have shown vitality and strong competitiveness in these fields. How should state-owned enterprises maintain their advantages in response to their competition? Third, in some industry fields, the disadvantages of state-owned enterprises will be very prominent. For example, the information industry, private enterprises have a more flexible mechanism and a sharper sense of smell make them feel like fish in water, while state-owned enterprises seem a little clumsy in this regard. How to solve this problem?"

It has to be said that Cai Zheng has a very strong insight and analysis and judgment ability. Sha Zhengyang has discussed related industries with him, such as high-end equipment manufacturing and cutting-edge materials industry. This is the cornerstone of China's future industry. If these two parts are lacking, everything will become a tree without roots and water without source, but the scope of these two parts is too large.

Perhaps state-owned scientific research institutes have strong strength in R&D power, but how should they operate to transform R&D power into real productivity? Should they cooperate with state-owned enterprises, or to cooperate with foreign and private enterprises in an unconventional manner?

Cooperation with state-owned enterprises is the old trick, and its advantages and disadvantages are very obvious. Cooperation with foreign capital is more risky. Cooperation with private enterprises should be the latest breakthrough, but there are as many advantages and disadvantages, especially in what way to cooperate, which requires discussion. In this kind of cooperation, can state-owned enterprises and state-owned capital be added to become boosters and catalysts?

In addition, in the information industry, Sha Zhengyang also mentioned that the information industry will be very critical in the future. This information industry is broad and is not limited to computer-related industries, but includes a wider knowledge economy industry.

Cai Zheng was very interested in Sha Zhengyang's proposal that the information industry should be classified as a fourth industry other than the tertiary industry. The two people discussed this for a long time. Of course, Cai Zheng did not fully agree with Sha Zhengyang's views, believing that some of Sha Zhengyang's ideas were too vague and were more classified into the tertiary industry.

This concept was originally a forward-looking concept, and Sha Zhengyang himself was also plausible, but he believed that with the development of society, the concept of the fourth industry might gradually form.

"Brother Zheng, how to solve these problems is probably not something you and I can only solve in a few days when sitting in the office. We can only put forward some ideas and ideas, and we can also have some suggestions from our own. However, because this involves the development of the entire industry, we are the working committee of large enterprises, and we can only consider the problems from the jurisdiction of the working committee of large enterprises. If we extend it, well, can we also include cooperation between large enterprises and state-owned capital and other types of enterprises in these fields for research? I think it is OK."

Sha Zhengyang's words were a little confused, and even Cai Zheng was a little confused.

"Zhengyang, can you say it more specifically? Let me give you an example?" Cai Zheng couldn't help asking.

"Then let me give you an example. For example, the chip industry, or the subcategory represented by computer operating systems, everyone knows that this is the crown of the information industry, and it is the country's most important weapon, and it cannot be used in the hands of others, but we are facing the absolute leading position in Europe and the United States in this area. How can we solve this dilemma?" Sha Zhengyang asked.

Cai Zheng roughly understood what the other party meant and nodded, "I understand what you mean. Do you think this type of industry is led by the country to invest hugely, but the effect may not be good? There will be some other negative effects?"

"Yes, these are subdivided industries that are purely generated by the combination of laboratories and market economy. In the United States, this combination, coupled with the development of venture capital, makes it very perfect, but in our country it is obviously slower. In the future, with the development of the information industry, such opportunities will continue to emerge. If we don't seize it before, how should we seize it later?" Sha Zhengyang pondered: "It is unlikely that our country will learn from the United States at once. The national conditions and the degree of economic development are different, but we also have some other references, such as Singapore's Temasek model,..."

Sha Zhengyang's words made Cai Zheng very sensitive. He immediately said: "Aren't CICC and Guotou already trying this?"

"It's far from enough, and to be honest, it's not good to do it far." Sha Zhengyang smiled, "If the country invests huge amounts of money and becomes a company that specializes in profitability, what's the point? Focusing on finance and energy, infrastructure construction is not that bad, it is indeed not good for economic development, but it lacks a strategic overall view and sense of responsibility, or they are subconsciously avoiding risks, because emerging high-end strategic industries are very risky, and they are unwilling to bear it, but you are unwilling to bear it. Who will bear it? All of them are left to private capital. Can they bear it now? China still lacks a time period to transition to strengthen private capital and adopt a market economy model to allow the private economy to enter these sectors. It will take some time..."

"What do you mean is that there should be enterprises among state-owned enterprises that do not aim for profit but support strategic industries?" Cai Zheng asked in a deep voice.

"It's probably because of this idea. If it is not for profit, how can this company survive? It is also a question. It is very difficult, including how our large enterprise working committee assesses it, so it still needs to find a balance point, but it can be clear that profit is not the main goal, but to promote breakthrough development in strategic industries and key core areas determined by the country. However, this specific division is another question. Only by slowly discussing and researching it, and it is impossible for our company to decide." Sha Zhengyang sighed.
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