Chapter 650 The Debate of Huayi
Li Xiu left the hall to look for Wei Zheng, but unexpectedly he suddenly heard a quarrel around the corner in front, which made him a little strange. After all, on this happy day, who would be so eye-lossing and quarrel here? So he walked forward a few steps, but before he saw someone, he heard another angry voice roaring: "Wei Zheng! Don't justify it!"
"I think the person who makes the argument should be the Zhongshuling!" Then a voice that made Li Xiu very familiar with him also said loudly, which was Li Xiu's former old boss Wei Zheng.
"I'm justified? According to what you said, if the Turks were moved to Henan, do you know how much pressure it would bring to local public security? In addition, without the Turks, there would be a barrier in the north of the Tang Dynasty. Will you, Wei Zheng, go on the battle and drive them on their way when other grassland people go south?" At this time, the angry voice roared again. Although he didn't see anyone, he could still feel his anger in his tone.
From Wei Zheng's name just now, Li Xiu knew that the person who quarreled with him must be the Wen Yanbo who supported putting the Turks in the grassland. Speaking of which, he had seen each other before, but he didn't remember it. He didn't expect that his temper was so hot and he dared to quarrel with Wei Zheng head-on. Li Xiu felt inferior to him with this courage alone.
Li Xiu originally wanted to find Wei Zheng, but since Wen Yanbo was here, Li Xiu wanted to see him, so he strode forward and turned around the corner, and immediately saw Wei Zheng quarreling with a gray-headed old man. The old man was wearing a purple robe, with a big face and a burly figure. Although he was old, he was still very strong, and he looked more like a general. This man was Wen Yanbo.
"Wei Zuocheng is here. I have been looking for you for a long time. I didn't expect that Zhongshu Ling, you are here, and I am polite!" Li Xiu walked forward with a smile at this time, interrupting the quarrel between Wei Zheng and Wen Yanbo.
Wei Zheng and Wen Yanbo were stunned when they saw Li Xiu coming. They couldn't help but look at each other, but they all snorted coldly, and then greeted Li Xiu respectively. This time, the Tang Dynasty was able to destroy the Turks in one fell swoop, and Li Xiu, the logistics chief, also made great contributions, so they should not be too rude to Li Xiu.
"Wei Zuocheng, Zhongshu Ling, I heard you were arguing about something just now, for some reason?" Li Xiu asked knowingly.
"Mr. Concubine, don't act anymore. The proposal to move the Turks to the south was the first one to suggest to Your Majesty. It just so happens that the three of us have different opinions. It's a fate to meet them here today. Why don't you argue about the difference?" Wei Zheng still had the same temper and expose Li Xiu's words in an instant. As a result, Li Xiu was quite embarrassed. In fact, it was also blamed. He didn't know Wei Zheng's temper, so he didn't need to turn around just now.
"Mr. Concubine, you suggest that the Turks be cleared out in the south. Let's not talk about the fact that after the Turks were missing, our Tang Dynasty would have lost a barrier on the grassland. According to your method, if these Turks are gathered together and sent to the south, what if they cause trouble? And how should they manage so many people? How can we solve the conflict between these people and the locals? Have you ever thought about these problems?" Wen Yanbo was also a very direct person, so he immediately told Li Xiu.
"The Central Secretariat, it is indeed a problem to place the Turks in the south, but according to your suggestion, organizing the Turks in the southern part of the desert, acting as a barrier to the Tang Dynasty, seems to kill two birds with one stone, but have you ever thought about it? The Turks had already aroused public anger on the grassland. Now the strength of the Turks has greatly reduced. Putting them on the grassland will only attract siege from other tribes, and the Turks are afraid of power but not virtue. Now that the strength of the Tang Dynasty is strong, they naturally dare not have a double heart. But if the strength of the Turks recovers in the future, or when the strength of the Tang Dynasty declines, wouldn't these Turks become the confidants of the Tang Dynasty again?" Li Xiu argued without any concession at this time.
"Yes, although my husband and I have differences on the place where the Turks are placed, our opinions are very consistent on this point. As the saying goes, people have no long-term plans, and they must be intimate. The ambitions of Turks must not be taken lightly. Only by moving them to the country and allowing the Turks to disappear completely, so that the problems of the Turks will not be left to the descendants of future generations!" Wei Zheng also agreed with Li Xiu's words at this time and said loudly.
"Absurd! Whoever says that if you completely solve the problems of the Turks, you must move them inward. After we place the Turks in the south of the desert, you can also send officials to manage and educate them. Moreover, after the Turks defeat this time, if you want to gain a foothold in the grassland, you must rely on our Tang Dynasty. As for the comeback, it is even more difficult to climb the sky. Instead of worrying about these problems, it is better to worry about the various troubles you bring to the migration of the Turks!" Wen Yanbo was not so easy to convince, and he still insisted on his opinion at the moment.
"Hmph, those who accomplish great things do not care about the trivial matters. In order to completely solve the problem of the Turks, it would be fine even if they encountered some trouble in the early stage. What's more, after the Turks moved inward, life and death were controlled by us. I don't know how they could make any big waves!" Wei Zheng said tit-for-tat again. Although he and Li Xiu also had differences, they were just small differences in the positions of migration, so they were naturally unanimous to the outside world.
"What Wei Zuo Cheng said is that although moving inward will bring some troubles, now my Tang Dynasty is strong and I am not afraid of these troubles at all, so it is better to completely solve the Turkic problem now. In contrast, the Central Secretariat's method will leave great hidden dangers for future generations!" Li Xiu also echoed Wei Zheng's words at this time.
Seeing Li Xiu and Wei Zheng dealing with him, Wen Yanbo knew that he could not get any advantage in this confrontation, but he still refused to admit defeat. He shook his sleeves and said angrily: "Don't make plans for each other, and we will fight for the victory and defeat in the court in the future!"
Wen Yanbo turned around and left after saying that. After all, he was suffering from staying here, so it would be better to leave early. And he was sure that as long as he left, Li Xiu and Wei Zheng had different opinions and might have a more serious quarrel.
Looking at Wen Yanbo's back as he left, Wei Zheng also snorted coldly. In fact, they had had such a quarrel countless times, and each time they had their own opinions and argued. This time, thanks to Li Xiu's assistant, he temporarily gained the upper hand. However, when he arrived in the court, Wen Yanbo would still stick to his opinion.
"Mr. Wen Yanbo is gone. Let's talk about the Turkic people's migration inward!" Sure enough, Wei Zheng immediately turned to Li Xiu at this time. It seemed that he had wanted to have a good chat with Li Xiu.
"Okay, actually I'm here to talk about this matter with Zuocheng Wei, but I'm very curious about why Zuocheng Wei insisted on relocating the Turks in Henan?" Li Xiu nodded at this time, and he had been waiting for this opportunity for a long time.
"The Turks have been in chaos in our Central Plains for a long time. From the Northern Qi and Northern Zhou, the Turks have become a major concern in our Central Plains. Just now, the son-in-law said that the Turks fear power but do not have virtue. This is also a fact. Now our Tang Dynasty has defeated the Turks by force, but this is still not enough. These Turks must be educated with etiquette, so that they can completely change their barbaric habits and become part of our China. Then there will be no Turks, so that this problem can be completely solved."
Wei Zheng paused here, and then he spoke again: "The Central Plains is the origin of China. The folk customs are the most simple, and the education of saints is the most deeply rooted in the hearts of the people. Therefore, only by moving the Turks there can we make them sinicized in the shortest time. In contrast, the prince-consort moved the Turks to those barbaric places in the south, wouldn't it turn the Northern Hu into the Southern Barbarians, and how could it be used to educate them?"
Wei Zheng's big passage made Li Xiukan confused. After a while, he realized it and then said incredibly: "Wei Zuocheng, the Turks are Turks. You don't really want to turn them into Han people, right?"
Li Xiu was influenced by nationalism since he was a child in his later generations, so in his heart, Han people were Han people and Turks were Turks. Although he was the first to propose to move the Turks inward, he did not regard the Turks as his own. Instead, he wanted to treat the other party as an organization like a deforestation legion to help the Tang Dynasty reclaim wasteland and to consume the population of the Turks. This was his greatest purpose.
"Why can't the Turks become Han people? As long as they follow etiquette, speak Chinese language, and wear Hanfu, they will naturally become Han people!" Wei Zheng said for granted at this time.
"I understand!" Li Xiu suddenly screamed when he heard this, and finally understood what the biggest difference between him and Wei Zheng was.
In fact, Wei Zheng's words also represent the Confucian definition of the nation, which is the debate between China and the barbarians. According to Sun Tzu and Mencius' definition of China, the so-called Chinese are actually people who follow Chinese etiquette, while those who do not follow Chinese etiquette are called barbarians. Moreover, in their opinion, as long as the barbarians follow Chinese etiquette, they will become Chinese people. If Chinese people abandon Chinese etiquette, they will become barbarians. In other words, Chinese people can actually transform each other.
Wei Zheng’s definition of China and the barbarians is no longer just a distinction from blood ties. Even a golden and blue-eyed Hu people follow Chinese etiquette, they will be regarded as a Han people. In contrast, Li Xiu judged a person’s nation from blood ties. These two judgments on nations do not matter, but the angles are different. This also made the two of them have a huge difference from the beginning, and it became even more difficult to convince Wei Zheng.
Chapter completed!