Chapter 704 The birth of Weilong
The morning meeting passed during the introduction. During lunch, many people were discussing which plan was better. They felt like they were gradually fascinating.
"When we were developing the third-generation machine, we wanted nothing. We felt the stones and crossed the river. When we arrived at the fourth-generation machine, our various subsystems were already complete, which allowed our designers to have more room to play. This is a huge progress!" Mr. Lin was very happy.
"Old Lin, which plan do you think do you have a better one?" Mr. Gu asked, who was eating at a table.
"Me? What I said now doesn't matter. It depends on everyone's choice." Old Lin said, "I'm just here to join in the fun. Mr. Qin must have his favorite plane. I just saw him sometimes shake his head and sometimes nodded." Qin Tao was stunned. Old Lin, is this okay?
You can't sell me like this! Qin Tao was speechless. Looking at the eyes of everyone, Qin Tao said, "Does my words work? Did I say it, and the afternoon meeting will not be held, and I will decide directly according to my choice?" So, one said it but not the other said it, but no one said it.
The real choice is to get the afternoon and look at the opinions of everyone. In terms of naval equipment, Qin Tao would rather offend people, and would not waver in a certain view. For example, when he was building the ASUS warship, he firmly supported the plan of the 14th Institute. Even if his competitors were dissatisfied, he would not change his original intention.
But now, he is just a spectator. In the afternoon.
"Everyone is very eye-opening today. Which solution is better and more suitable for our Air Force? Let's ask everyone to talk about it." The leader on the seat spoke: "Mr. Qin, when it comes to the fourth generation of aircraft, your Mingzhou Group has the most say. You can tell us first." Since Qin Tao has come, he will definitely not be a spectator, and the leader has already started to call out.
Moreover, this reason is very appropriate: Currently, only two countries in the world are developing stealth aircraft, and Mingzhou Group is the only company in China that has successfully developed stealth aircraft. Now that the Air Force is going to develop heavy stealth aircraft, of course, we have to listen to Qin Tao's opinions.
Qin Tao glanced at Mr. Gu, then looked at Mr. Song, and stood up calmly: "Since the leader has named it, I can't help but give him face. I'll just say a few words. We all know that the fourth-generation machine has four indicators, that is, 4S. So, how to choose these four S when they cannot be balanced?" The United States has the world's number one scientific and technological strength. The fourth-generation machine they developed can achieve 4 S balance, but other countries definitely do not have this strength.
Without this kind of strength, you have to make some choices.
"Let me first talk about our fourth-generation mobile phone ideas." Qin Tao's words clearly mean that no one is offended. Which one is better depends on the focus.
"When we were developing the fourth-generation aircraft, we had one purpose: stealth. We must do the best stealth so that our fighter jets will not be discovered by the enemy's radar. Only under this premise can we continue to consider other performances." Qin Tao said: "For example, for avionics systems, we still have active phased array radars, but because of the high price, ordinary customers choose the configuration of our flat-panel gap radar, such as maneuverability. We use conventional aerodynamic layout, and our engine is not very powerful, so maneuverability is just average. As for supersonic cruise, our aircraft does not have it at all." Qin Tao's meaning is already very clear: in the era of the fourth-generation aircraft, stealth is the first priority. Without stealth, everything else is useless!
If you want to talk about which of the two parties in the bidding performance is better, just compare the invisibility. This is not difficult. You can find out if you make a relevant model and go to a special electromagnetic laboratory for testing.
Where is this laboratory? Of course it is in Chengdu! When the J-31A fighter jet was just launched, a special electromagnetic laboratory was built in a small building divided by Institute 611.
So, everyone can think that the reserves in this area of 611 will be richer.
"Mr. Qin, stealth is very important, but stealth is not necessary. If there is not enough mobility, it will become a tragedy once it is close to the visual range. We believe that the indicator of mobility is rigid and must be taken into account!" Mr. Gu couldn't help but speak. Although Mr. Sun was responsible for the project, he also paid great attention to the future of the 601 Institute. He lost last time, and he must not lose again this time!
"That's right, Mr. Gu, you're right. Once you get close to the sight line, you will suffer if you have poor maneuverability. However, what is the tactic of our fourth-generation aircraft? Is it fighting with enemy fighters?"
"Using precious fourth-generation aircraft for fighting is definitely a waste." Old Lin finally spoke.
"The tactic of the fourth-generation aircraft is to launch an attack on the enemy's high-value targets under the command of the early warning aircraft." Qin Tao continued to introduce: "For example, early warning aircraft, aerial tankers, ground command agencies, etc. They will fire missiles from a distance, and then retreat successfully, so as not to get caught in close combat as much as possible. Do you know why Americans' fourth-generation aircraft put supersonic cruise in?"
"It's to get to the battlefield as soon as possible."
"No, it's not just about reaching the battlefield as soon as possible, but also leaving the battlefield as soon as possible. Seeing that the situation is not good, they immediately enter supersonic cruise and retreat. As long as they enter supersonic cruise, the battle is basically over." Advanced heavy fighters can fly to Mach 2, but it consumes a lot of fuel. They can fly for two hours. If the afterburner is fully activated, they will burn all in five minutes. Therefore, the afterburner is only used when doing certain maneuvers. It will definitely not be used all the time, and it is even more impossible to cruise.
Of course, there are only a few exceptions, such as the MiG-25. Afterburner chamber is specially made and can be used for a long time. At the same time, the aircraft carries a lot of fuel. Its empty weight is 15 tons and its maximum take-off weight is 40 tons. Except for the weight of one or two tons of pilots and missiles, the rest can be used to load oil, and almost 20 tons of fuel will be brought in every time we go to the sky.
In later generations, when NATO conducted air combat confrontation exercises, every time the EF2000 wanted to fight the F-22 with excellent maneuverability, the F-22 pilot would go directly to the supersonic cruise. Bye bye, let's not play anymore!
So the Europeans have a ramjet missile with a range of more than 100 kilometers, and probably this is why they want to shoot down the F-22 that enters supersonic cruise.
The research and development of the Institute 601 has come into a misunderstanding: they pay more attention to mobility, which is completely wrongly led by Su Huo Yin.
In the Red Empire era, the Su-27 fighter developed by Sukhoyin was the representative of the strongest interpretation of maneuverability. It created a series of maneuvering actions that seemed incredible at the time, such as cobra maneuvering, and later, after the engine was installed, there were even more amazing movements such as falling leaves.
Su Huoyin tasted the sweetness of maneuverability. As the most dazzling existence at every air show, they are also pursuing maneuverability. They also make the S-37 with the forward sweep wing to improve the maneuverability of the aircraft. In their eyes, there is no concept of stealth at all.
If there is any planned plasma stealth technology in the era of the Red Empire, it would be fine if you don’t have to consider the design of the fuselage. Now, there are no such high-end things at all. If you want to stealth, you can only use the appearance to modify it. At this time, they still do not pay attention to stealth, which is going to be a detour.
Even after arriving, the invisible Su-57 was created, and the actual invisibility was suspected.
Institute 601 has been producing Su-27 series aircraft and has a good relationship with Su-Hoyin Design Bureau. Later, they also studied stealth technology together. In their eyes, stealth is of course not as good as maneuverability. At this time, Mr. Gu seemed to have reacted to something, and his face looked a little ugly.
"I think the Snow Owl fighter of the 601 Institute adopts a three-wing layout. Compared with the conventional layout and duck-style layout, this method has two natural defects. One is that it affects stealth performance, and the other is that the resistance will be very high at high speed." An old expert present spoke: "I don't know if you have done stealth tests. What is the reflective area of the equivalent radar on the front?" Qin Tao didn't say much, but the weight is very heavy. The comparison of several types of fighter jets is mainly based on the combat method. In other words, what kind of fighter jets are needed in the future?
"The reflecting area of the front equivalent radar is between 0.3 and 0.5. We believe that the effect of stealth cannot be exaggerated too much. Even if it is the F-22 of the United States, stealth may not be as good as they boast about it." Mr. Sun said.
"Yes, we don't know what the stealth is in the United States' F-22, but what we know is that the front radar reflection area of the Mingzhou Group is below 0.1 square meters." Another expert said: "If we can all achieve a radar reflection area of 0.1 square meters, then it is not impossible for Americans to achieve 0.01 square meters." The front radar reflection area of the old American F-22 is said to be 0.01 square meters. This statement made many people sneer at it. How is it possible!
It’s like when a sniper competition was held, domestic soldiers went to the competition with Type 85 sniper rifles. I heard about the accuracy of foreigners’ sniper rifles, and I was full of disbelief. How could it be that sniper rifles can still hit such high accuracy?
It’s impossible to think about it! As a result, when the game started, they were all eliminated. It was not that the soldiers’ training was not hard, but that the guns in their hands were not strong!
In the eyes of opponents, our sniper rifle is not a real sniper rifle at all, it can only be regarded as an accurate shooter rifle.
Now, the stealth of the F-22 is a mystery, but it can be compared with our own. When he heard this, Mr. Gu was surprised: "Can we achieve a 0.1 square meter frontal radar reflection area?"
"Yes, if we have a better invisible coating, we can also ensure that this data is more outstanding." Qin Tao said.
"Our Institute 611's plan has been repeatedly tested in the electromagnetic laboratory, and the reflection area of the front radar can be around 0.05." Mr. Song spoke.
When he first introduced it, he did not mention these data, as if he was waiting for the opportunity now.
0.05! The people in the 601st Institute all turned dark, and this data is one-tenth of them!
"How is it possible, how did you do it?" Mr. Sun asked in surprise. What they said was 0.3 to 0.5, of course, to put gold on his face, but in fact it was about 0.5, and it was also this snowy owl. If it was a golden eagle, the radar reflection area was larger, which was a big problem caused by air intake on the belly.
"Of course, it is to repeatedly calculate and experiment to find the best combination of aerodynamic and stealth." Mr. Song said: "Even if we use the duck-style layout, we attach great importance to stealth." There is no need to say anything else now, just talk about the needs of the Air Force, you can confirm it.
The 601 Institute's plan emphasizes mobility, especially supermobility. They use the three-wing layout to pursue combat performance with a large angle of attack, but they did not expect that this specialty on the third-generation aircraft would become a disregarded on the fourth-generation aircraft.
The Air Force is the user, and they have the right to choose!
"We need stealth aircraft." An air force general spoke: "The higher the stealth performance, the better."
This chapter is not over, please click on the next page to continue reading! "Yes, the mission of the fourth-generation aircraft is not to fight for bayonets in the air, but to shoot cold arrows in the air." Almost everyone fell to the ground and supported stealth. They did not explicitly support the 611 camp, but by looking at the performance comparison of the bidding aircraft, you can know which aircraft is more suitable for the needs of the Air Force.
"Everyone, no matter how important the stealth is, can it compare to the overload amount? Can it compare to the higher maneuverability?" Mr. Sun was anxious: "The fourth-generation aircraft has four S. You can't just pay attention to one of them!"
"Yes, the amount of ammunition is also important, but blindly pursuing the amount of ammunition will fall into a misunderstanding. If you want to be invisible, you must have a built-in bomb bay. If you want to have a high amount of ammunition, the body must be huge. Your Snow Owl is too large. This kind of fighter jet cannot be particularly flexible, and the purchase price will be higher. Compared with fighter jets, the Snow Owl is more like a fighter bomber." said a leader.
This sentence made Qin Tao’s eyes lit up. At present, the stealth bomber project has not started in China, and the H-20 has not yet been approved. This Snow Owl from the 601st Institute is unqualified as a stealth fighter, but if it is a bomber, there are still some considerations.
Even if they failed this bid, they could continue to develop as bombers, and they could hang an air-shooting version of the Eagle Strike-21 in their belly. What if the Navy likes it?
Even if the H-20 is built, it is estimated that the length of the belly bomb bay in the aircraft will not reach the order of nine meters. After all, this kind of bomber has a flying wing layout, with a short body and a large wingspan.
However, these are all things that will happen in the future. Now it is the Air Force bidding meeting. Qin Tao no longer needs to interfere in the next thing, and Mr. Lin did not interfere. The two sat in the corner and communicated quietly.
"You supported the project of 611 in the past. Now it seems that 611 did not disappoint you. This bid will be successful again. This time, it will definitely establish the status of 611 in the domestic aviation industry." Mr. Lin said.
Qin Tao nodded: "Our engine is still not as advanced as the United States' technology, so if the power is insufficient, the aerodynamic layout is our most suitable aerodynamic layout plan. As long as Mr. Song and his team make the stealth meet the standards, this aircraft is a qualified fourth-generation heavy stealth aircraft." Thinking of the majestic scene of the J-20 in the sky, Qin Tao was also full of expectations. This project is still related to their Mingzhou Group. Many of Mr. Song's inspirations came from the J-31A, and then further revisions were carried out. The power of this aircraft was directly reserved for the turbofan-15, which was only achieved under the promotion of Qin Tao.
"You said, can this fighter be converted into a carrier-based aircraft in the future?" Mr. Song asked again. Qin Tao shook his head: "I don't know, let's develop it for the Air Force first." Suddenly, Qin Tao thought of something again: "Mr. Lin, please keep an eye on it. It is not easy for the 611 Institute to get to the present. If someone wants to transfer the leaders of the 611 Institute to the capital to advance and lower the secret, and then transfer the leaders of the 601 Institute to overtake, it will cause many adverse factors to the development of this fighter. If such a thing happens, you have to use your remaining heat." In Mr. Lin's eyes, a cold light flashed: "As long as I, Lao Lin, is still alive, who dares to play tricks like this, don't blame me Lao Lin for being rude!" Qin Tao just prevented it in advance, and this method did not succeed in the end. After Yang Gong was transferred, he did not take office at all: I came out of 611, my position is here, and I don't go anywhere!
And the transferred leader was unable to take over any leadership work at all, and in the end it was left to nothing.
At that time, Gong Yang had a tough attitude. Now, with the support of old seniors like Mr. Lin, it should be easier to crush this conspiracy.
As the two were talking, they heard bursts of applause. Amid the applause, Old Song walked up to the rostrum with a bright face. It seemed that he was going to announce the bid results?
"Now, I solemnly announce that the plan of the 611 Institute is suitable for the future equipment of the Air Force. The 718 plan of the 611 Institute won our bid and officially became the fourth-generation aircraft project of the Air Force, code-named J-20, which is the most important project of our Air Force at the end of the 20th century. I hope that you, the 611 Institute, will be cautious in arrogance and impetuosity, inherit the spirit of diligence and progress in the development of the third-generation aircraft, and complete the research and development of this fighter as soon as possible!"
"Yes, our 611 Institute will definitely live up to its mission!" Mr. Song was very excited. As the chief engineer, one project in his life is enough. He was very happy that he could develop two projects himself, and he was also of great significance.
The J-10 allowed domestic fighter jet research and development to catch up with the world's first-class level, while the J-20 achieved surpassing and stood in the ranks of the world's first echelon!
"Here, I want to thank Mingzhou Group and General Qin. Without these preparations he made, our fourth-generation aircraft project may have been postponed for five to ten years, and even our third-generation aircraft would have been postponed for more than five years." Mr. Song looked at the direction where Qin Tao was: "Now, here, I want to invite Mingzhou Group to invite their team to develop J-31A to join our R&D team!" Qin Tao was also shocked. Is there such an operation?
He just came to join in the fun and came to eat melons, but he didn't expect that he would become the biggest melon! Old Lin's eyes lit up: "Old Song's proposal is very good, I support it!" At present, J-20 is just a model. If you want to finally complete the test flight and finalize the service, you still have many years to go and have a lot of work to do. At this time, inviting units that already have experience in stealth aircraft research and development can undoubtedly greatly speed up the research and development process.
Moreover, the R&D team of J-31A is composed of two groups of people, one is the engineers of the Yakovlev Design Bureau who Qin Tao fooled from the Russians, and the other is the technicians of the former 611 Institute. Currently, the Chinese head Zhao Dangsheng was originally engaged in J-10 flight control.
What does this mean? In the past, the 611 Institute lent these people to Mingzhou Group, but now it is here to ask for them, and it has to be more. After borrowing for so long, there must be interest, right?
Originally, Qin Tao wanted to say that it was inappropriate. After all, the J-20 project is a key project of the Air Force, and the confidentiality level is very high. If his own people join, will there be any leaks? But now, since Mr. Lin agrees, if he persists, he will probably be questioned by Mr. Lin. Why are you not happy?
Want more benefits?
"At present, we have completed the research and development of carrier-based aircraft and land-based fighter jets, and only vertical take-off and landing fighter jets are still running in. There are indeed some surplus personnel. If Mr. Song has a need, our group of people can join in." Qin Tao said: "However, the salary of these people is not low." He has to say that although he supports national defense, Mingzhou Group wants to make money after all, and cannot let Mingzhou Group suffer losses. If you want people, you have to pay them a salary!
Mr. Song smiled: "Mr. Qin, we have already figured out this. An aircraft can be divided into many subsystems. When your people join in, they can directly contract the research and development of a certain subsystem by contracting. We will directly contract you for funds. The person is still yours." Qin Tao was a little helpless and wanted to enter the organization?
No way? It’s better to outsource! The salary of these people still needs to be paid by Mingzhou Group, and they are just contracting some projects.
Mr. Song has racked his brains to reduce costs. However, as long as the contract price is appropriate, he can accept it. After all, if there is no project, once the person becomes idle, he may be useless.
"Okay, then do it in this way." Qin Tao said. At this time, Mr. Gu below was a little confused. Since he had to contract the subsystem, could he also need some systems to contract it?
This can also be added to the development of fifth-generation machines, but when they asked them to go to the 611 contract, they couldn't stand it. Just as he was hesitating, Mr. Lin had already started talking about other issues.
"Everyone, since we have decided, should we give this plane a nickname?"
"Old Lin, how about you name it?" said the leader on the rostrum.
"The aircraft of Mingzhou Group all have the word "Dragon", and ours also have to carry dragons. What about it? "
Chapter completed!