Zhang Tianhao didn't expect that his tone was so firm and affirmative, which was a bit beyond his expectations.

He was still a little embarrassed about Lu Weimin's real thoughts on this, and frowned slightly: "For the people, I understand what you mean. Establishing a rule of law society is our country's major policy and will not change, but this is also a long-term process. Our country has basically not experienced capitalist society and directly reached socialist society, which is the so-called primary stage of communism. In fact, in the entire social system, including our regime system, there are still considerable feudal concepts of rule of man. To solve this problem, it requires long-term persistence and persistence, which does not take a day and a night. This also requires us to have a long-term and meticulous plan in promoting the construction of a rule of law society."

Lu Weimin didn't say anything. He knew that Zhang Tianhao had some more information, and he also had a premonition that he and Zhang Tianhao's views on this issue would have considerable differences and even unprecedented conflicts.

"Our Fengzhou is a backward inland area, with a relatively short history of building districts and cities. In other words, we are quite behind in the construction of a rule of law society. This is an objective reality. Of course, we hope to catch up with the rule of law society, or even surpass the surrounding areas. This will indeed help us establish a rule of law, fair and civilized society. However, we must see that the gap exists objectively, and some distances cannot be solved overnight, especially the changes in people's ideas and concepts, which cannot be achieved by one thing or another. At this point, we must face reality and not act emotionally."

Zhang Tianhao's tone was very calm and gentle, and even had a taste of explanation and persuasion.

Lu Weimin really wanted to accept the other party's advice and persuasion, which could greatly avoid disputes and even conflicts with Zhang Tianhao over such a "insignificant" issue, destroying the tacit understanding and balance that the two had finally established over the years. However, reason told him that he had endured for so long that the reason why he did not promote the litigation trial of these cases before the withdrawal of the territory and the establishment of the city was that he wanted to use the new team and new concepts established by the adjustment of the new city and the new administrative divisions to create a new image and establish a model or benchmark for a society ruled by law.

Of course, he knew that it would not be able to do it in a short time, or even for a long time in the future, but so what? If you don’t do it, then there would be no progress, and even if you are unwilling to do it because of one reason or another, how could you really do it well? Now, you can find one hundred reasons for building a new city, and then in the future. You can also find a hundred reasons to avoid this problem. Once this inertia is formed, you will become increasingly unwilling to change and destroy it. This is not what Lu Weimin wants to see.

"Secretary Tianhao, please forgive me for not being able to agree with your point of view. I think now is the best time. On the track of legal construction, our Fengzhou has been slower than other regions. Maybe you may think that what we are more important now is to compete for the economy and the gap in our economy is larger. I admit this, but I think we should look at it longer-term. The construction of a local rule of law environment is indeed not achieved overnight. It requires long-term accumulation and precipitation. However, if we avoid this problem based on our current financial difficulties or the urban area innovation and construction, when facing many difficulties, we will form a

Psychological tendency and psychological inertia, in the future, our party committee, government and leading cadres will subconsciously feel that we can solve this type of problem through non-legal channels, which has led to their more accustomed to using the power in their hands to destroy the law to solve problems. I think this is precisely the most dangerous. Compared with this, millions or even tens of millions of funds seem insignificant. If we can use this to reverse a certain concept of our cadres and masses in the city, I think it is worth it even if it will make our finances more difficult. Therefore, I think this is an opportunity and a rare opportunity."

Zhang Tianhao's face darkened slightly. It had been a long time since he heard someone so clearly disagree with his own opinions and so openly expressed it. Even if there were only two of them now, even if the other party was Lu Weimin, it still made him feel a little uncomfortable.

"For the people, it's not just a matter of funding." Zhang Tianhao picked up the teacup and took a sip. He put the teacup down and gently wiped it on the teacup with the lid. A "ding" sound seemed to be indicating something.

Lu Weimin looked at the other person with a calm expression.

"For the people, we need to consider the authority of the first-level party committee and government and the huge impact or harm that such things may bring. Some people say that this may lead to the country being disunited. I think it is a bit exaggerated, but there is no doubt that it will cause great trouble and damage to the new Shuangmiao District Committee and District Government. Their authority will be questioned. How can the government carry out its work? How can the people trust it?" Zhang Tianhao looked at the other party with a sharp look.

Lu Weimin laughed, "Secretary Tianhao, it seems that I have misunderstood. Is your concern not a problem of funding?"

"The funding problem is one aspect. You should know that in addition to Shuangmiao, there are several similar situations, most of which are in the original Fengzhou City, but there are Huaishan, Oyuan and even Guqing. Once a chain reaction is triggered, how should the court respond?" Zhang Tianhao saw Lu Weimin laughing and couldn't help frowning: "As far as I know, the litigation amount involved in these scattered cases is at least more than 10 million."

"Secretary Tianhao, are you really worried about these funding issues?" Lu Weimin asked again with his head tilted.

Zhang Tianhao snorted in his nose, "I said that this is one aspect, but I am more worried about the damage to the government's authority. This damage may be fatal to the first-level government's future work."

"A lawsuit can damage the authority of the government? Maybe one thing, but I think it depends on what's going on. Shuangmiao, which is obviously a rogue thing, is that the grassroots government is playing rogue. I think it is precisely this situation that greatly damages the prestige of the government, rather than the court's judgment. The court makes a judgment in accordance with the law and the government pays back the money. This will help establish the authority of the law, and at the same time reflect that our government and other units abide by the law and establish the authority of the law."

Lu Weimin did not compromise and still insisted on his own opinions.

"Do you really think so? For the people, the real national conditions of our country and the basic quality of the people determine our current political form. Our government is still an authoritarian government in the development stage. This is my personal understanding. The authority of the government is still very necessary under the current situation. This is the foundation for maintaining the balance of domestic social and political ecology. I also understand your idea. Our country is in a stage of transformation, a transformation of the political economy and even the entire society. But I think this transformation is a gradual process, not a jumping radical transformation. We need time and process to gradually adapt to our government officials and the people, rather than using this explosive method to establish what you call legal authority. That will only backfire. You must know that we are not theorists, but practitioners."

Zhang Tianhao also knew that it was as difficult as Lu Weimin trying to convince himself, but he would not give in on this issue. In his opinion, this was a matter of principle.

Similarly, Lu Weimin also realized this. The word "authoritarian government" dared to appear from Zhang Tianhao's mouth, which means that Zhang Tianhao did not have his own understanding and viewpoint in this regard. He dared to say this word in front of him, which means that his thinking already has his own opinions on these issues, rather than being able to fool people with just a few fools.

This actually aroused his fighting spirit, which was a collision and confrontation of ideas and ideas, and Zhang Tianhao was obviously a good opponent.

"Secretary Tianhao, I also understand your worries and concerns, but I am worried that your worries and concerns will become an inherent psychological pattern. In fact, I think your psychology has already formed some trends of inherent, inertia and inertia." Lu Weimin was not polite. Since it was a confrontation of opinions and ideas, rather than specific people and things, it was simple, and could speak freely and without any scruples.

"The government's defeat in the economic lawsuit you mentioned will damage the authority of the government. In my opinion, this is not true. Does your government owe money to show fairness or justice? No, this only means that your government is strong outside and the middle, and how can the government loses its credibility talk about authority? This is often more dangerous than without a government! Court judgments to repay, which reflects the fundamental principle that the law is above everything else. The government's compliance with legal judgments is also an implementation of the concept of governing according to law. This not only does not damage the image of the government, but also helps to enhance the prestige of the government. It shows that the government is also strictly in accordance with the law. Establishing the view that the law is above everything will greatly make all officials and the public realize this, which will be of great help to our government governance and the people's law-abiding in the future."

Lu Weimin's tone was high-pitched and his eyes were even brighter. Obviously, he hoped that such a debate would be a headache for Zhang Tianhao.

The matter turned out like this, but he could not avoid it. Lu Weimin's words were not unreasonable, and his views were painful. However, as the secretary of the municipal party committee, he needed to consider the problem from a higher perspective. The case of Shuangmiao was not isolated. It was really a court trial and ruled that the government lost the case and paid the case. Then it would definitely have a domino effect, involving multiple lawsuits, not only economic lawsuits, but also administrative lawsuits. Lu Weimin obviously underestimated this round of shock waves. On this point, Zhang Tianhao believed that Lu Weimin was still too young and too ideal.
Chapter completed!